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What's Your "And"?

John Garrett’s research involves talking with professionals who realize that who you are is so much more than what you do. Accountants, consultants, lawyers, engineers, and other professionals everywhere are doing hobbies and passions after they leave the office. We discuss why these outside-of-work interests matter and how they've impacted their career.
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Sep 27, 2017

Steve Browne describes himself as a music freak. Right when he gets to his office, he turns on some music and leaves it on throughout the day. He has an iPod classic with 11,000 songs on it and he goes to live concerts as often as possible – including U2 at Soldier Field and Paul McCartney and Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers with Joe Walsh. He has a very personal connection with music that translates into a personal connection with the people around him.

In this episode, Steve and I talk about how, like music, people have a vibe, so it’s important for leaders to understand where people are instead of where you think they should be. As a human resources executive, it’s important for Steve to have the courage to be himself while also encouraging others to do the same. But it’s the company’s culture that has to not only allow for it but also value each individual’s passions. In order to get to know others around you, make time in your calendar to get out and meet others where they are at. As Steve says, "Your desk is your enemy. You need to get out of your office and go visit people."

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