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What's Your "And"?

John Garrett’s research involves talking with professionals who realize that who you are is so much more than what you do. Accountants, consultants, lawyers, engineers, and other professionals everywhere are doing hobbies and passions after they leave the office. We discuss why these outside-of-work interests matter and how they've impacted their career.
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Jan 24, 2018

Tom Schneider was named the World Series of Poker Player of the Year in 2007. He learned how to play from his mother when he was young, where he quickly learned how to read people actions and how they’re motivated. He also happened to teach himself how to play the guitar at the age of 51, so now he writes and sings country music in his spare time.

In this episode, Tom and I talk about how playing poker helped him learn how to calculate expected values and to process the game, all of which helps him be a better CFO. He started the singing/songwriting passion because he wanted to be on “America’s Got Talent”. While that never happened, he’s gone on to write 30 songs. He’s found that his coworkers at LoudMouth Golf really appreciate this talent and he’s created stronger bonds because of this. He believes that having something outside of work is crucial, so when he meets new team members, he is quick to ask them “what do you love to do outside of work?” because “that’s what really drives them.”

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