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What's Your "And"?

John Garrett’s research involves talking with professionals who realize that who you are is so much more than what you do. Accountants, consultants, lawyers, engineers, and other professionals everywhere are doing hobbies and passions after they leave the office. We discuss why these outside-of-work interests matter and how they've impacted their career.
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Mar 14, 2018

Nina Kaufman was called to come back to her faith after her Grandfather passed away and she soon found herself chanting Torah as part of the service. This is difficult because it involves telling a story with music while understanding the text in two languages. She also runs at least one 5k a month with her husband, including the Midnight Run in New York City’s Central Park on New Year’s Eve.

In this episode, Nina and I talk about how her outside of work interests allow her to “clear the mechanism”, to borrow a quote from the movie “For the Love of the Game.” The performance aspect of chanting Torah has made her much more comfortable when speaking to large audiences. And her running has taught her to let go and realize that not everything needs to be so competitive. But the biggest impact is the way she’s now able to relate more with her clients. “My clients wanted to get to know me and hear more about the person behind the professional.”

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