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What's Your "And"?

John Garrett’s research involves talking with professionals who realize that who you are is so much more than what you do. Accountants, consultants, lawyers, engineers, and other professionals everywhere are doing hobbies and passions after they leave the office. We discuss why these outside-of-work interests matter and how they've impacted their career.
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May 2, 2018

When Joel McKay worked as a Business and Litigation Consultant in Chicago, he never felt like it was the right fit for him. While he was interested in many things outside of work – like BMX bikes, road cycling, woodworking, snow skiing, and playing drums in a band – he really enjoyed tutoring students on Saturdays. He got into it through a friend and has never looked back, having left the consulting world for a grad school program in school counseling.

In this episode, Joel and I talk about his passions and interests outside of work has always allowed him to build strong connections with others. Instead of clients and colleagues, now he does this with students and their parents. He firmly believes that passions make life richer, adding, “I’m not good at my job if I’m not balanced.”

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