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What's Your "And"?

John Garrett’s research involves asking professionals, "Who else are you beyond your job title?" Accountants, consultants, lawyers, engineers, and other professionals everywhere are doing hobbies and passions after they leave the office. We discuss why these outside-of-work interests matter and how they've impacted their career.
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Dec 27, 2019

Kristen Rampe, CPA works extensively with the accounting industry on talent retention, talent development, and partner harmony. She spent ten years in public practice with PwC and a regional firm in San Francisco, before founding her consulting practice in 2011.

When Kristen was first on the podcast, on episode 27, she talked about her passion in watercolor painting. She is now back to talk about her new passion in improv performance!

Dec 25, 2019

Bob Neuman shares a similar vision to John in that every individual is more than just their profession. Bob talks about how a scary but successful mountain climbing experience brought him to this epiphany and discover his passion to help other professionals lead fulfilling lives!

Dec 20, 2019

Lauren Thiel, founder of The Real Thiel, an accounting firm for creatives, returns to the podcast from episode 71 to update us on her new dance company and how dance continues to impact her business!

Dec 18, 2019

After 25 years in corporate executive leadership roles, Kathy is now a creative coach helping people capture and celebrate their life story or career legacy. As a Life Story Curator, she combines photos, thoughts, interviews, custom artwork, letters and memorabilia of people’s lives creating an heirloom quality book that captures important events and life experiences.

Kathy Lawless talks about her 30+ years in volleyball and how a company-wide extracurricular activity encouraged her to be more open about her passion during her time in the corporate world!

Dec 13, 2019

Andrew Tarvin, the World’s first Humor Engineer, returns to the podcast from episode 38 to talk about his transition from improv to stand up comedy, how your emotions impact your productivity, and his new book!

Dec 11, 2019

Sean is a Detroit-area native and Notre Dame undergrad. He spent 8 years working in Chicago and DC before attending MSU College of Law.

Sean Gallagher, a friend of John’s from college, talks about the obstacles and difficulties of coaching youth baseball and how he applies these skills in the office!

Dec 6, 2019

Jen Gardner returns to the podcast from episode 55 to tell us about her brief hiatus from roller derby, joining a new team and helping them win their first championship in 11 years! She also shares with us some of her co-worker’s reactions to her passion for roller derby!

Dec 4, 2019

Leticia talks about her dance journey, how it helped develop the discipline she applies in the office, and how she managed to get a co-founder to attend a ballet class! She also talks about how a negative reaction to sharing a passion can hurt morale and productivity!

Nov 29, 2019

Scott has been at Conrad Siegel since 1995, where he helps clients design and run their defined contribution retirement plans, and to understand their fiduciary responsibilities. Scott works mainly with 401(k)-type plans and ESOPs, and does a fair bit of business development as well. He especially enjoys the public speaking, writing and networking that he does as a part of his work!

Scott returns to the podcast from episode 41 to talk about his new Mustang, his recent leg injury, backpacking with his son, and why he loves networking!

Nov 27, 2019

Shannon is a litigator practicing primarily in the products liability, toxic torts, government contracts, and financial services spaces. He loves the people he works with and the work is (usually) pretty exciting. However, music and cars have always been his passion. He has been a musician for as long as he can remember. “I was playing ‘drums’ on pots and pans on the kitchen floor before I could carry a tune (or hold my bladder)”. Shannon started working on cars as soon as he “could see under a hood”. He spent the first 10 years after college as an engineer for a Big 3 auto manufacturer, the next few years running a hot rod shop, the next 5 as a professional musician and college instructor, and the last 8 years or so building his legal practice.

Shannon Peters talks about his love for cars, his previous careers in the auto & music industries, and how this experience is applied to his career today as an attorney! He also shares with us his experience with his office discovering his passion in music and their reaction!

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